Grateful Dead Live at Selland Arena on 1974-07-19
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d1t01 - Jam
d1t02 - Bertha
d1t03 - Mexicali Blues
d1t04 - Deal
d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line
d1t06 - Row Jimmy
d1t07 - Me And Bobby McGee
d1t08 - Scarlet Begonias
d1t09 - El Paso
d1t10 - Tennessee Jed
d2t01 - Playing In The Band
d2t02 - Seastones
d2t03 - Brown Eyed Women
d2t04 - Me And My Uncle
d2t05 - It Must Have Been The Roses
d2t06 - Jack Straw
d3t01 - He's Gone ->
d3t02 - U.S. Blues
d3t03 - Weather Report Suite ->
d3t04 - Let It Grow ->
d3t05 - Spanish Jam ->
d3t06 - Eyes Of The World ->
d3t07 - China Doll
d3t08 - One More Saturday Night
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|Beat It On Down The Line|
|Me And Bobby McGee|
|Playing In The Band|
|Brown Eyed Women|
|Me And My Uncle|
|It Must Have Been The Roses|
|He's Gone ->|
|Weather Report Suite ->|
|Let It Grow ->|
|Spanish Jam ->|
|Eyes Of The World ->|
|One More Saturday Night|
AUD>Cm>Cass>Cass>Dat>CD supplies patches in Row Jimmy and Playing In
The Band. It also supplies all of Seastones and One More Saturday Night
-- Seamless transition between Discs 1 and 2
-- This copy does not have the NR that other patched copies have
-- Thanks to Rob Eaton for supplying the source Dat
- 2008-04-23 14:30:19
- Dat -> Sound Forge 4.0 -> SHN (Jamie Lutch June 2001)
- Fresno, CA
- SBD -> Master Reel (7 inch Master Reels @ 7.5ips 1/2trk) -> Cassette (Tascam 122mkIII) -> Dat (Panasonic SV3800/44.1k)
- Taped by
- DAT from Rob Eaton
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Selland Arena
When they played here in '68 [a two-song show, but we don't have it; nor the two '67 shows], it was their first time out of ballrooms/theaters and into an arena. This show was the resumption of the '74 summer tour. The afternoon soundcheck is attached to most SBD sources, and the show is chiefly known for the Weather Report Suite and its long jam into Eyes of the World. The more-solid first set though is what puts the show up with others from the era.
First Set. Bertha is a hot opener, but the OFF/SBDs are a mess, with half the band missing (incl. Bobby's guitar). Use an AUD. Mexicali Blues has great support from both Jer & Keith. Deal comes early and tightly, the momentum swinging through a sweet Beat it on Down the Line-5, but going a bit flat into Row Jimmy and Bobby McGee. The rest is above average, including one of the best-ever versions of El Paso. On the OFF, Playing in the Band has a 22sec cut @12:26.
Second Set. After Seastones from Phil & Ned, the first half of the set is not as on-beat as the first set, but Bobby is good and Phil lays bombs throughout. Jer makes the bottle/jaw Me and My Uncle extra. Though far from the tightest, Jack Straw takes off after 4mins. Likewise, though He's Gone is not a great one, it's redeemed by a little jam @12:30, and a flubby U.S. Blues by a wild solo. That's all good because the show peak will be landmark. Weather Report is candy and gets even better during Let it Grow. They back right into a corner so they can fight their way out in a process that includes passing through a Spanish Jam. They go so far into the jam that they never get to the final verse (world began/rise and fall) before smudging into Eyes. It's a 27½min WRS, with a 21½min Let it Grow section (which is twice as long as 9/10). At 10:17, the OFF has an abrupt and ill-pitched patch, adding 1min1sec from 7/31. The SBD has a cut @4:03 in LiG of 18secs (the MTX is complete). Eyes of the World is kingly, and the extended Phil solo is crazy sumptuous. There are little places, like after 11mins where Jer & Phil solo together, that freak me the fuck out. China Doll suffices but One More Saturday Night is a little off (the OFF released the SBD version).
1st Set: A-
2nd Set: B-
Overall = 4¼ stars
Bertha – great on the AUDs (not so much on SBD/OFF)
Mexicali Blues – it's the support behind Bobby
Deal – gifted earlier
El Paso – actually, one of the best ever
Me & My Uncle – Jer makes it so much extra
Weather Report Suite – gets even better through LiG and ensuing jam
Eyes of the World – several sumptuous sections
SOURCES: The miller_32634 is the clearest SBD, and it has the soundcheck jam. It's slightly slow in places and a gap in Let it Grow is unpatched. The gans-finney_217 is slightly better for He's Gone through China Doll. The shure_unknown_fix-102766 is the re-pitched AUD for Bertha. Dave's 17 has almost the whole show.
Subject: Clean sounding 74, nuff said
Subject: Maybe 5 stars but just almost perfectly...
I suggest there's something just a half beat off in the way Jerry's playing... I love that kind of difference in a show! Or isn't that why we mostly listen to the Dead, and Jerry, the general contrariness of their approach sometimes?
Maybe that is just the baggage I bring to it when I hear it!
And why I was inspired to follow them around...
Subject: '74 was great
Good versions abound in this one.
I'm posting this as that opening jam really sounded familiar to me. I realize it is reminiscent of so many things but couldn't place my familiarity with it. I realized the changes are the same in George Harrison's P2 Vatican Blues (which is from his posthumous Brainwashed LP). Can anyone speak to that jam's origins?
Subject: I was agnt1831
Subject: Cherish well your thoughts
Then get headphones and listen to this joint.
Augh, yes that is the freakin' ticket.
This is so fine, so fine,
I am 3 songs in and I am as set as a man can be.
I had been following the January 1978 tour thru California and that is good, real good! but this is just absolutely the kind.
Jerry is perfect both in voice and guitar playing.
Keith and Phil are right up alongside with him.
This is so good. I can't help thinking a bear is going to get the drop on me or something.
Oh, Donna and Bobby singing on B.I.O.D.T.L with the rest of the band (Phil and Jerry) in there as well. Donna gives a sweet thank you!
This is getting a five and I am only up to 'Row Jimmy' I would be hard pressed to decide between 73 and 74. It would be tough.
Phil just thundering and Keith very distinct as well. Absolutely no complaints about the drums. Billy much love!!! Jerry with that guitar.
I hope my batteries are up for this. I built a huge fire. Wow Row Jimmy just went into a giant wind tunnel. Oh, back Thankfully!
"That's the way , it's been in town
Ever since they tore the jukebox down"
Me and Bobby-Great tune, Weir kills this
Phil is dropping bombs on this, Holy Cats!
Garcia likes to shadow Weir with the vocals here!
Like the way Bob sings, "Coal mines of Kentucky"
Garcia right there with the backing vocals...
Surprised they never brought this one back?
Scarlet Begonias- Another plus for 74 are these stand alone Begonia's. Donna great here as well.
The Rhythm section gets so busy on this tune.
The jam just goes...
Just looked up and the moon is headed towards it's peak probably by the end of the week I believe.
A few planets up there as well, did you ever notice that planets kinda wobble around in the sky. I thought I was tripping when I made that observation back in the days but they still wander around.
El Paso- For my money the band is so on they will crush whatever they play. Always interesting to find where Jerry is going to jump in and sing on this tune. Dang Phil!!!
This was one of the first dead tunes I memorized!
Tennessee Jed-This tune fell out of favor with me in the later years. I am not really sure exactly why? Just never seemed to come close to these versions. Dig Weir singing here and there with Jerry! Donna laying down some down low harmony.
And ever song is in the Phil Zone.
So i got these 100 foot trees on the side of my property. they are called Australian Pines which is technically misleading because they have zero sap and are a HARD WOOD. They burn really swell.
Only problem is mostly don't need a fire in Florida 10 months out of the year.
Anyway, I learned how to use a chainsaw and I have been cutting all of the junior trees. These things grow 12-20 feet a year, When they hit 100 feet they start getting thicker. The ones on the side of my house are 50 years old and mighty thick. You can't just whack a 100 foot tree, you have to get up high and bring it down bit by bit. When they fall they make the ground shake.
I don't want yall thinking i am anti-tree. these things have been declared an invasive species and are not allowed to be planted in the State of Florida. They die in extreme cold so you won't see them in frost and snow regions. Funny thing is they also sucker underground so they throw down root lines and then spring up new shoots down the root line. They do have pine needles which is why they are called pines but the needles are deadly to other plants and trees once they take over a patch of ground they dominate and almost nothing else will grow anywhere near them. They are actually very beautiful and except when the dew point is extremely high (May-thru-September) it can be up to 10 degrees cooler in an Australian Pine Forest.
So I am keeping two stands which keeps me in firewood but clearing away the trees by the house which would easily have crushed the house in a bad storm.(which we just had a twister in the county last week)
Writing this during P.I.T.B. Phil leading the charge. Great to here him and Bill so dominate while Jerry just exploring the outer limits.
Bill almost has a drum solo going here.
Truthfully, this is some Jam inside the Playin.
Could it be some folks just are not listening to the music? I find this all consuming!!!
A strange thing has happened to my fire when i started this at 4:30pm the wind was pretty strong so I went through a ton of wood in no time. I dig these huge trenches fill them with wood and then flood the channel outside the barrier.
Well about 8pm the wind just died which is good because high wind and fire is more like work then relaxation. Anyway about 9;30pm i got the headphones and started this show. Since then i have been able to kick back and just completely enjoy the flames.
Sheeze they rode that jam into the Reprise like a knife thru butter,,, Wow, they are blazing!
Temperature is also starting to drop. The next decision I have to make is do I go with Seastones?
Negative on that. I could listen to the tapers talk perhaps. Nah this sounds like people clapping for a trained seal. Auggh...
I vaguely remember PRIMUS doing something like PORK SODA? anyway I guess I am now in the one star zone for this stuff. hey, it had to be better than waiting in line for the bathroom.
Hey, i actually am 10 minutes in so 3 more minutes couldn't hurt.
B.E Woman will be so kind after this!!!
I actually spent about an hour dosing the fire. i have to go back out again cause i don't want this sparking up tonight.What is wrong with the B.E. Woman??? Sounds fine to me??? This tune i loved every single time i heard it. just a classic. Even liked the way Phil arranged it for Furthur.
I know Furthur closed Set One with this.
I did not know the Grateful Dead ever opened a Second Set with this.
Phil is Everywhere.
"Delilah Jones, went to meet her God, and the old man never was the same again"
I was surprised that Me and My Uncle had been played so many times over the years.
It is easily one of their better tragedy songs.
In the later years they would double up on the cowboy tunes. i guess it made for less starts and stops.
Oh, I have been hearing THE ROSES a lot on the California 1978 tour. Jerry's voice in so much better shape here in 74. (It blows my mind how many ballads Jerry had to choose from)
In the 80s this tune got pretty scarce and when played usually was a sign of a good set list in progress. (Donna very sweet here)
Jack Straw- One might argue that this tune actually improved over the years.
In the sense that the vocals switching between Bobby and Jerry became so intense not too many songs where they trade off like that. in fact the only ones i can think of where covers like 'the Weight' and a few others i am blanking on right now.
He's Gone- Oh so pretty to hear Jerry sing this. Strange how this tune could mean almost nothing to me except dancin my butt off but other times it got real personal at the loss of friends and family or something heavy in the Dead universe.
After My Grandmother passed i cried like a baby at a show and i couldn't even stand hearing this after Brent die.
I am amazed they could keep this energy level going. They haven't even got to the heart of the jams yet. If you loved the Dead's music these were such good years to listen to shows.
Billy throws in that little marching step as they go into the harmonies. Sometimes when I am at church I get this vibe and i just love it.
The connection to Christian gospel is very strong.
I know the Dead were not exactly Sunday School material but they had so much soul.
Anyway, I know they are going to go somewhere with this He's Gone but since I didn't pay a ton of attention to the set list i will just be enjoying the ride.
I really would like to have some way to distinguish between my rating since i mostly rate everything between 4 and 5.
I guess I will just say this is an over the top 5.
They really nailed that He's Gone. o.k. now I remember U.S. Blues!!! Again another thing to favor 74' 'U.S. Blues' is a major improvement over 'Wave the Flag.'
if they would have just given U.S. Blues some variety in set list placement. it is almost like the riff in U.S. Blues now sounds like in my head-----THE SHOW IS OVER , GRAB YOUR THINGS, GET TO THE PARKING LOT, SELL SOME STUFF, GET TO THE NEXT CITY/// Anyway just flashing back a little
glad they went for the Weather Report Suite. Always thought they missed out not playing this from start to finish. But Let It Grow was killer as a 1st set closer. (Again Furthur would play both the entire SUITE as well as Let It Grow.)
Always felt they should connect this tune up with Here Comes Sunshine but only two shows that i know of where that went down. one i believe was in Boston . i forget where was the 2nd H.C.S>W.R.S and i am too lazy to investigate it now. 'Same old friends the wind and rain"
Let it Grow is the strongest part of the Suite so I can see why that took priority.
Listen to the thunder shout I Am , I AM
who shall I tell them has sent me?
Also just going to say it right here. i don't know why the hatred of Donna got started . She is freakin one of the band in my book . Always was and always will be.
Weir did his share of screaming on those rock and roll numbers. The line is 'if a man among you has no sin upon his hand, let him cast a stone at me for playing in the band.
This Let it grow has a crazy jam with who else but Phil again!!! i didn't look at the time but they are treating this like they did the 1st set P.I.T.B namely as a point of departure.
Jerry space jam,,, Wow, this is great!
If there is any redeeming value to SEASTONES it might be that the band seems so loose and out there. especially Phil. that atonal stuff is a real trip. This jam is basically the same idea as SEASTONES with the added benefit of Garcia headed out to the Stratosphere. Is it Spanish jam?
i just recently listened to a show late 60's with a Spanish Jam to close the First Set.
(It was the TDIH a couple of days ago for January)
You know the chords are not far from White Rabbit.
Jeff Mattson likes to pull out the White Rabbit.
How cool would that be Spanish Jam >White Rabbit.
Heck Phil could really crush a White Rabbit!!!
Oh, how cool right into EYES. It is good to hear a different approach into EYES and that was a completely different approach.
Probably EYES in 1973 is the Zenith of any Dead tune. They came close again with this song in 1977 but for my money the breakout year has the most intense versions of this song. And I don't even need all the extended jamming after the main chorus concludes. I just like the song itself.
I memorized the chorus by going BHT
and then SES if you understand those kinda lyric markers.
"Sometimes we ride on your horses"
SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY.
Phil has a real nice groove going.
EYES>CHINA DOLL-with something like a Harpsichord
Sat Night-Wind Tunnel sound , oh well
Another song that when shuffled in the rotation could really be a blast.
Thankful the whole show was not this murky.
OUTSTANDING SHOW!!! The CHINA DOLL dislodged my face from my HEAD,,,
Subject: Solid moments throughout
(One star from this reviewer)
How does that seem possible. yes, everything is subjective, but ONE STAR??
Relisten, you missed it
Subject: The Wall of Sound
Subject: Forty years done come and gone my oh my!
This one has showcase versions of Playin' and Scarlet, some of the finest versions of these tunes come from this period.
The real reason to pick this show over others with similar setlists, is the unique one-time-only transition between Spanish Jam and Eyes. Bobby playing loose and lively with Keith pounding away on the electric piano, I love that funky sound he gets!, Billy snapping away on the snare and Jerry just nailing it to the wall as he was so apt to do in the mid-70s. A transcendent moment that deserves it's place in the Hallowed Hall of Immortal Grateful Dead Jams.
The only reason this show doesn't get five stars is due to such stiff competition during the 72-74 era.
Subject: one of the best of best of 74'
Subject: Magic, despite Brown-Eyed Women
PS. the BEW isn't even that bad...
Subject: patchwork of aud fills makes for a unique "seastones" document
Subject: The Grateful Dead, epitomizing radiance
Subject: I Almost Went
Alas, I crapped out because I had to work. My friends upbraided me, they said, "Work? Who's got time for work?" They didn't go, either.
You have perhaps read numerous ravening comments in GD lore concerning this show?
Lemme tell ya, they are all true. And this particular version is exceptionally representative.
Here explendent in all their verdant glory: Lots of classic early versions of early 70's originals.
Should note that the way this concert version features a mixture of Soundboard recordings and Audience recordings -- the two do truly meld uncannily. The transitions are so gentle to the ear that if exfolliates an entirely new aspect of the band essentially exhibiting the nature of the band recorded functionally echoed by two disparate sources. ANAMOLOUS CONVERGENCE !!
PITB is absolutely perfect in tone and intent.
Maybe the best, nee,' cohesive, "Phil & Ned" Feedback Symphony ever.
The entire second set is a dream.
Have to give this show a 10 out of 5 stars.
Nun The Less.
(p.s. it's still gonna be a five star rating)
short on reeviews
Subject: one of the best
so, not to be too redundant here, but there is very little negative to say about this spectacular show. almost everything is wonderfully played. its the second set jam, WRS>Spanish>Eyes>China, that gets my vote for one of the best Dead jams ever.
also, the Scarlet is easily the best of the year and Playin' is sublime....you really don't have a '74 collection w/o this...
And oh yeah- try it with headphones on...the big ear muff headphones...not those slim, jogging, ear plug head phones. Put it on WRS and PREPARE TO BE AMAZED. UH...DAMN, indeed! Peace, Seth Stine
Subject: rest in peace
Subject: Great Playin' In The Band
Subject: Fab Stereo imaging
Big up C.M once again. How do you do it?
Subject: He's Gone
Today, I'll dedicate it to both Zinn and Salinger. Thanks . . .
Subject: Great gosh...
I don't like the mix and the other band members appear to be dumbfounded (just like me) by what Jerry is doing - still this is magic.... from the soundcheck jam to OMSN it's just amazing.
Someone mentioned the distortion (fuzz?) jerry is using: it is indeed amazing but it's not the first time we hear him using a fuzz-pedal... my memory is fuzzy ("one big smoky haze") but I remember an amazing China Doll where he uses the fuzz pedal... about 45 days prior to this show. From that show on he keeps "experimenting" with the fuzz-pedal, although this show is where it really shines... (check out the second part of Begonias to get an idea what I'm talking about)
Subject: THis show rocks!!! And an extra jam at the begining? OMG!
Subject: this show
Subject: An underated show
I keep coming back to this show. The set list and mood are different than most of my favorite shows, but there is something special about it.
Jack Straw through eyes just kills. Its probably my favorite wrs/let it grow ever.
Oh, and this is definitely a seriously heavy and awesome Phil show.
Subject: Five stars .........
Subject: sux ass
Subject: A Fine Show
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" July 19, 1974 at the Selland Arena, Fresno, CA, U.S.A.
Thank you Charlie. You keep delivering solid shows that are mixed, recorded and performed with exceptional quality. You make it look easy, how do you do it?
For the best in GRATEFUL DEAD shows I recommend clicking on Charlie Miller's name and collecting all his GRATEFUL DEAD shows, he has impeccable taste.
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I recommend adding this show to your 1974 GRATEFUL DEAD collection.
"One More Saturday Night" is an audience quality recording.
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the Love.
PS: Finding the best GRATEFUL DEAD Show is like mining for gold...when you find a great show, you get the fever, and keep looking for more...there is a system to use, start at the begining and use a spreadsheet to keep track of the year, month and day. That'll keep you organized.
It's a long journey that starts with the first step. A journey that should be traveled on your own. You should not be deprived the magnificent musical scenery from 1966 to 1974 and beyond. It is spectacular and breathtaking.
Some people are like me and say that the BEST GRATEFUL DEAD shows were with Pigpen, and they were,; it's a fact. April 71 at the Fillmore East and West contain some of the most incredible live perfomances ever recorded.
The "sound" of the GRATEFUL DEAD changed dramatically after 1971, some liked it, some didn't and others didn't care.
But GRATEFUL DEAD shows are like beautiful days. There are many of them and then there are days with glorious sunrises and sunsets. Those shows are best discovered.
The joy of finding a show you like is intangible and belongs in that realm. Only you can decide for yourself which shows you like and why. 1974 is filled with many wonderful shows, so listen to them all and then decide.
They are out there, like Gold Nuggets waiting to be plucked from the quartz. Go Mining brothers and sistes...seek and yee shall find...Thar's Gold in them thar archives!!!! Stake your Claim!
Subject: 100 points club!
The dynamite Scarlet and the jazzed out Playin' are candidates for best ever preformances, and the second-set jam is phenomenal. This is easily among the very best of 1974. (100 pts)
Subject: Grate, Grate Show.....
It's my opinion that Jerry's chops were at their best in '74. It seemed like he was able to play anything at any time, with an unending supply of original ideas.
I have read many reviews of this show, and I really, really want to know, if this isn't a five star show, then what is? Because if you're listening to shows that are as good or better than this one, please, please let me know what show it is. It must be pretty stellar and I would like to hear them for myself.
Do Everything in Love. Peace.